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re su auto eivai n mikpn ekdosn tou A380... A388.. A389 8a eivai ligo pio megalo!
Esu ta pods koitas? Koita kai autous pou eivai dipla sto skelos prosgeiwsns... lol
 

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Mi to blepete etsi,se fotografia den fenete megalo
Ego piga afti ton Maio sto Hamburg ke piga sto Airbus,eki pou ta sinarmologoun ola ta komatia se ena aeroplano. ;)

TERASTIO :shock: sas LEO, :D then borite na to fantastite!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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seven4seven edw ennoeis? den vrika allo topic 380...eimai neo melos vlepeis kai prepei na anagnwrisw ta katatopia.... :D

anyway gia arxi tha pw ena pragma mono:

to 380 exei perissotera orders apoti to 747 2 xronia prin petaksei gia prwth fora (ton genari tou 1970 me Pan Am itan? den thimamai kala).....anyway as einai kala i Emirates me ta 50 orders tis.... :thx: EMIRATES

Tha ksanagirisw arga to vradi me perissotera stoixeia giati simera to uni me krataei mexri vradi.

Bye pros to paron
 

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To 747 eixe ksekinisei me tin paraggelia tis PANAM gia 25 kommatia.Omws,otan prwtoparousiastike to olo concept,tin epoxi ekeini (mid-60s) opou to megalytero epivatiko aeroskafos itan to ...707 (xwrhtikotitas 180 all economy), itan ena pragmatika terastio risko gia tin etaireia,kai kati pragmatika rizospastiko kai kainotomo ston xwro tis politikis aeroporias. Throumenwn twn analogiwn, 8a itan san i Airbus simera na prosefere ena montelo ...1500 8esewn!
Ekei pou 8elw na katalhksw einai, oti to 380 den apotelei kamia foveri kainotomia ston xwro twn politikwn aeroskafwn. Apla einai ayto pou fantasiwnotan i AIrbus edw kai dekaeties: enas antagwnistis,epitelous, tou 747 apo tin edw meria tou Atlantikou!
Sou eipa kai sto allo topic,oti to 380 8a to paradextw otan petaksei,pistopoii8ei,mpei EPITYXWS se yphresia (plhrwntas ta requirements twn pelatwn, kati pou den isxyei me to 345 kai to 346), otan pleon 8a exoun parax8ei 1400+ A380, (osa kai ta 747 simera), nai, isws tote perasei apo to myalo mou mia yponoia oti ektopise to 747.
Ws tote omws, i aeroplanara 8a einai mia! (Dyo...vale kai to 777!)

8a akousw ta epixeirhmata sou (opu 8a einai gia to anti8eto,ypo8etw ;) ) me endiaferon!

PS:Apo 8ema emfanisis, eye-candy, pws to lene, to 747 einai episis eth fwtos mprosta! To mono pou paradexomai sto 380 einai to teratwdes mege8os tou,alla apo omorfia....ase... (gnwmi mou,etsi?)

Kalo vrady :cool:
 

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seven4seven":2dm7e1xh said:
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plhrwntas ta requirements twn pelatwn, kati pou den isxyei me to 345 kai to 346

Αν και συμφωνώ με το 110% όσων λες, θέλω να σου υπενθυμίσω ότι το 777-200 (A) όταν πρωτοβγήκε ήταν "ψόφιο" και είχαν ακουστεί πάρα πολλά παράπονα από πελάτες, με πρωτοστατούσα την launch customer United!! Βέβαια, μετά από λίγο καιρό βγήκε το 777-200 IGW (που μετά έγινε 777-200ER) το οποίο βέβαια ακόμα μαμάει σε performance, reliability και πωλήσεις και έκτοτε (~1997???) no problems :cool:

Πάντως, θα συμφωνήσω στο ότι για τα 345/346 ακούγονται πολλές φήμες ότι δεν ικανοποιούν τους πελάτες τους, σε αντίθεση με το 777-300 ER που στις δοκιμές ξεπέρασε τα αρχικά specs κατά 1,5% (!!!)
 

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To kserw kai symfwnw gia ta prwta 772, gi ayto kai i BA ta elege "Cripple Sevens" :D . Akoma kai ta prwta 747-100 me tous early PW JT-9 den mporousan na paroun ta podia tous. Alla twra...oloi kseroume!
 

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xwris na epidiwkw na pw kati pou tha sygkinisei kapoion pou exei gia nick tou ena teleiws "diallaktiko" xaraktirismo, lege me seven4seven :D :D :D apla na pw, oti opws se kapoious den aresoun ta 380, se kapoious allous den aresoun ta 340-600 enw apo palia se pollous den aresoun ta 747.

apla to 380, aneksartita apo to pws to deixnoun oi photos, einai kati pou nai men den fernei tin epanastasi, alla fernei mia brand new day stis aerometafores.

ek twn dimosiwn sxesewn,
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seven4seven":u15ji914 said:
PS:Apo 8ema emfanisis, eye-candy, pws to lene, to 747 einai episis eth fwtos mprosta! To mono pou paradexomai sto 380 einai to teratwdes mege8os tou,alla apo omorfia....ase... (gnwmi mou,etsi?)

Safws kai einai gnwmi sou kai auto den mporw na to sxoliasw...to pio einai omorfo kai to pio oxi einai entelws ipokeimeniko, alla den nomizw oti oi etaireies pou epeleksan kai tha epileksoun to 380 tha to kanoun gia na omorfinoun to stolo tous! :D

To 380 erxetai oxi mono ws apantisi twn eurwpaiwn stin kiriarxia tis Boeing alla kai gia na kalipsei kapoia kena stin oikogeneia tis Airbus opws episis kai ws apantisi stin anagi gia ena megalitero kai pio oikonomiko aeroskafos.

Loipon, to 380 se 3-class configuration tha xwraei 555 epivates kai mporei na min einai 1500 opws les alla 100-120 parapanw epivates se kathe ptisi einai mia mi amelitea veltiwsh. Kai auto giati opws gnwrizoume, ta megalitera aerodromia tou kosmou simera antimetwpizoun provlimata xwritikotitas.
Aerodromia opws to LHR, pou den mporoun na prosthesoun kai allo runway (akoma kai an mporousan auto tha xreiazotan kamia 10aria xronia enw to provlima einai TWRA), exoun sovarotato meionektima kai oles oi etaireies sfazontai gia ena politimo slot.
I moni lisi loipon einai na agorasoun oi megaliteres aerogrammes tou kosmou megalitera aeroskafi kai na meiwsoun tis ptiseis tous pros auta ta aerodromia. Akoma kai 100 epivates parapanw (pou den einai kai ligoi) mporei na simenei oti i etaireia tha exei tin dinatotita na kanei kati tetoio.

Vevaia mporeis na peis oti kapoia apta aerodromia tou kosmou den einai etoima kai tha xreiastoun polla lefta gia na proetoimastoun gia to 380 (exei apaitiseis apo mikos kai platos runway kapou 4 km i 11000ft, megalitera taxiway gia megalitero wingspan kai safws megalitera terminals gia na ikanopoiisoun perissoterous epivates)!! milame gia polla lefta....alla mipws kai to 747 2-3 xronia prin to 1970 den eixe paromoies apaitiseis gia ta dedomena tis epoxis??? oi ependiseis pou eixan kanei ta megalitera aerodromia tote kratisan 30 xronia.


To 380 einai episis mprosta oson afora tin filikotita pros to perivallon...ena tomea pou to 747 exei veltiwsei alla ta dedomena allazoun sinexeia. Ta aerodromia piezontai aptis kiverniseis, tis prasines organwseis (kai den ennow to Pasok :D ) kai tous perioikous na apagoreusoun tis nixterines ptiseis logw thorivou twn aeroskafwn. To 380 einai arketa pio athorivo apto 747.
Episis analogika me to megethos tou exei ligoteres kauseis.

Genikws kai gia na min se kourasw me tous tomeis pou ws aeroskafos iperisxiei, to 380 den irthe epeidi ta afentika tis Airbus apofasisan mia wraia mera na ftiaksoun antagwnisti gia to 747 (einai enas aptous logous vevaia).
To 380 einai apotelesma pollwn etwn ereunas kai stenis epikoinwnias metaksi tis kataskeuastrias kai twn aerogrammwn pou ithelan ena pio oikonomiko aeroskafos gia na antimetwpisoun ola auta pou proanefera.
Einai apotelesma tis zitisis kai oxi tis antagwnistikotitas!

Sin tis allois to 380 sto mellon tha ananewnete sinexws (me freighter, stretched, LR versions ktl), enw to 747 exei sxedon ftasei sta oria tou me tis sinexeis ananewseis ta teleutaia 30 xronia.

Oi etaireies pou to exoun parageilei (opws Emirates, Virgin, Singapore, FedEx, ktl) to theloun gia na antikatastisoun ta 747 tous. Sto kontino mellon den vlepw na eksafanizontai ta 747 alla den nomizw oti iparxei amfivolia gia to ti tha ginei sto makrino mellon.

En anamoni twn dikwn sou epixeirimatwn.

Filika,

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Ta aerodromia piezontai aptis kiverniseis, tis prasines organwseis (kai den ennow to Pasok :D )

traba to eva edit me dieukpivnsn ws pros 'oikologikes orgavwseis' ;) Tote dev 8a exei s kati politikou periexwmevou edw.. ;)

Se oti afora to 8ema... Alex, kalo kai xpuso to B747.. Mnv 3exvas oti n Boeing diegrapse ta sxedia tns gia parousiasn avtikatastatn.. Kai se oti afora to A380, mnv 3exvas oti snmera epiukratouv alles suv8nkes stnv pagkosmia agora ef'evos, kai mia diaforetikn katastasn stnv oikovomia af'eterou. Me alla logia, mnv perimeveis vaexei tous idious pu8mous paraggeliwv, opws to B747 priv apo 30 kai kati xpovia!
 
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