Info 717-200, 717-200LR/HGW, 717-300X

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och,
elpiso na min kani i Oavi (NOA) enan teteio lathos...
afou etsi kai alios i NOA tha ine mia itiria (OA+avi+MC),
ama pai i NOA gia A320, na agorasoune / nikiasoune A318
ama pai i NOA gia 737NG, na agorasoune / nikiasoune B736
esto na alaksoune ta (Bombardier)Dash8/Atr42/72 me ta Bombardier Q series, tha protemousa ta CRJ700/900 (pou exoune to idio Cockpit opos ta Q) enanti tou 717

Hristos
 
I epilogi ton 717 eitan, me antikimenika kritiria ama to paroume, lanthasmeni epilogi. To pio logiko aeroplano gia tin OA ekino ton kairo tha eitan to 737-500.

Anyway omos, meriki antropi stin OA “perasan tin kserokefalia” tous kai mistothikan auta ta 3 aeroplana. Ama thimame kala o shediasmos elege kati gia perisotera aeroplana (palia to eihame syzitisi auto) . Pantos ta 717 ehoun apodikti poly kala aeroplana kai ton mono mion tous einai oti den yparhei oikogenia.

Sto kostos ana ora theorounte poly ftinotera apoti ta A318 kai ta B737-600 ta opia aeroplana ehoun oikogenia alla pali den poulionte idietera kala

To 717 den pisteuo na agorastei apo tin OA, pathos tote tha eprepe na polisei ola ta 737-400 gia logo to polyfimismeno “communality”. Me paraksenepse poly auto pou diabasa sto airliners.net.


Oute Airbus den pisteuo na agorasei i OA.
Pio poly to blepo pros metahirismena 737-300/400/500 (737 Classik)

Ektos bebea ama allaksan ta sedia logo tou stolou kai tou communality

An kai tha mou areze para poly na do perisotera 717 sta hromata tis OA. Ta “pao” para poly auta ta aeroplana





tha protemousa ta CRJ700/900 (pou exoune to idio Cockpit opos ta Q)

ti ennoeis hristo?? ta Dash 8-300Q kai 8-400Q ehoun to idio cocpit me ta Canadair CRJ700/900 ?? Me parakseneui auto para poly, kathos edo pera milame gia dyo aeroplana pou toulahiston apo tehniki apopsi den ehoun kamia apolitos shesi metaksi tous
 
kathos edo pera milame gia dyo aeroplana pou toulahiston apo tehniki apopsi den ehoun kamia apolitos shesi metaksi tous

les?? 8)

i Bombardier Q series, then ine tipota alo apo ta kanonika gnosta Dash 8.
Gia na eixe i Bombardier tin ifkiria na polisi regional AC΄s typo STOL,
kanane ta DASH8 ena upgrade, pou apo tora onomasounte Q(quiet) series.
To perixomeno avto tou Upgrade:

*digital Cockpit
*new Style anti vibration Cabin
*kai structure upgrade me nees kinitires,

protipo gia avto to megalo upgrade, itane to Bombardier CRJ.

i Cabina ine sxedon i idi me avto tou CRJ.
ta systimata (ektos APU) ine sxedon ta idia me avta tou CRJ.
i diafora ine stous kinitires Turbofan (pou ola ta Q exoune tous idies me diadortiga KJ dinami) kai Jets

to Pilotirio exi men diafortiko stisimo, ala ta main systems ine sto idio simio.
I Software sta Display kai to main Board Computer ine apo tin Collins Proline (ta CRJ exoune to systima IV, ala san na les, Winxp kai Winxp me SP1)
o kostos gia na mathi enas pilotos apo Q se CRJ tha ine telios minimal,
san na matheni enas pilotos tis OA apo 733 sto 734 (diafortikes kinitires/sxedon diafortiko Cockpit)

Then ipraxi kami ali ifkiria, pou poris na exis Turbopro kai Jet toso konta masi
se mia ikogenia, kai epedi i Ellada tha ine panta peroxi gia STOL (<800-1000m), tha itane i kaliteri oikonomiki lisi. (etis kai alios, ta Q ine simera ta ipersinxrona Turboprop)


"tha protemousa ta CRJ700/900 (pou exoune to idio Cockpit opos ta Q"
to ipa mipos ligo ltahos

Hristos
 
alex":2q2bmyz1 said:
gnorizi kaneis tin diafora metaksi tou B717 kai tou MD-90 ??

Opws deixvei me tis fwtogpafies tou o dtrach, kupies to cockpit, to opoio sxediastnke ek veou, otav n Boeing aforase tn McDonellDouglas.. Se oti afopa to 717 autousio.. Eivai mia McDonellDouglas sxediasn, kai auto faivetai apo tis grammes tou skafous pou 8umizouv para ma para polu polla movtella ths oikogeveias tns MD. Apo tnv alln, n Boeing, mexpi tnv agopa tns MDD dev eixe va epidei3ei stnv istopia tns aeroskafos me tetoia diata3n twv kivntnpwv.... (Kai mn mou avaferete to 727, giati auto to koukli exei 3 kivntnpes!! :P )
 
itan sta alithia etsi opos to eipe o makedonas ??? ego thimame oti i boeing elabe apo tin MDD ena etimo aeroplano to MD-95 to opio aploustata to metaonomase se Boeing 717-200
 
Hristos":1r2dht80 said:
o kostos gia na mathi enas pilotos apo Q se CRJ tha ine telios minimal,
san na matheni enas pilotos tis OA apo 733 sto 734 (diafortikes kinitires/sxedon diafortiko Cockpit)

Den kserw ti kanoyn ta Qs kai ta CRJs, alla ta 737 Classics kai ta 737NGs exoyn common type rating, opote oi pilotoi poy ta petane de 'mathainoyn' apo to ena sto allo, apla ta petane ola! To dexomai, eimai :off: alla thewrhsa swsto na to anaferw.
 
Ena pithan o senario tha mporouse na einai:

717-200 ~100 pax ara kaliptei ATR 72 kai uparxonta 717 dromologia
717-300 ~130 pax ara kaliptei uparxonta 717 kai 733
A320/321 kaliptoun 734 kai A300
Dash-400 kaliptoun ta ATR42

an kai den mou fenete toso pithano mias kai oi perisoteroi pilotoi ths OA einai certified gia 737.
Apla 3 tipoi aerpskafon (717, A320, Dash) antikathistoun 5
 
alex":1197syxc said:
itan sta alithia etsi opos to eipe o makedonas ??? ego thimame oti i boeing elabe apo tin MDD ena etimo aeroplano to MD-95 to opio aploustata to metaonomase se Boeing 717-200

Alex ontws to B-717 einai i metonomasia tou MD-95. To MD-95 einai to MONO aeroskafos tis McDonnel-Douglas to opoio i Boeing thelise na synehisei tin anaptyksi kai paragwgi tou meta tin eksagora tis prwtis apo tin deyteri.
Mias kai apo tin arxi tis emporikis paragwgis tou oi 2 etaireies eixan pleon synnenothei, apofasistike na dwthei se ayto onomasia symfwna me ta protypa tis Boeing.. diladi to Boeing 717!!

Ta aeroplana tis Douglas & McDonnel-Douglas aytou tou megethous einai ta ekseis (dipla seimiwnw tis hwritikotites tous se theseis): [symfwna me seira ekseliksis]:

:arrow: DC-9-10 (90 seats)
:arrow: DC-9-20 (90 seats) -improved engines & performance
:arrow: DC-9-30 (115 seats)
:arrow: DC-9-40 (125 seats)
:arrow: DC-9-50 (139 seats)
:arrow: DC-9-81 ή MD-81 (172 seats)
:arrow: DC-9-82 ή MD-82 (172 seats) -improved engines & performance
:arrow: DC-9-83 ή MD-83 (172 seats) -increased range
:arrow: DC-9-87 ή MD-87 (139 seats)
:arrow: MD-88 (172 seats) -improved cockpit
:arrow: MD-90 (158 seats)
:arrow: MD-95-30 ή B-717-200 (100 seats)

Fainetai kathara pws xrono me to xrono, kathws prohorouse i ekseliksi tou DC-9 & tou MD-80 i McDonnel-Douglas sxediaze aeroskafi me oloena kai megalyteri hwritikotita. To MD-95 itan to aeroskafos pou ekane tin allagi kai ksanagyrise sto arxiko megethos tou DC-9-10/DC-9-30 stoxevontas stin agora tou jet mikris xwritikotitas pou itan eksallou kai i arhiki katefthinsi tou programmatos DC-9.
 
Den nomizo oti einai toooooso kako gia tin O.A na parei kai alla 717.Afou einai euxaristimeni me to aeroskafos! Kai an uparxoun etoima??ama xreiazete aeroskafi edo kai tora ...
 
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