Idiwtikopoihsh OA

  • Thread starter sxoaa
  • Ημερομηνία δημιουργίας
Status
Κλειστό για νεότερες απαντήσεις.
makedonas":1mggo9ih said:
kai opoios dev 8elei va katalabei oti gia swsto management dev eivai upoxrewtiko va kleisei mia etaireia kai va 3avavoi3ei tote vomizw oti adika spatalaw ta logia mou!!!!
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

Eipa egw na kleisei gia na ksananoiksei? auto pou lew einai oti prepei na kleisei kai na ksemperdeuoume me ton diethnes perigelo pou legete OA.

Auto pou les gia swsto management, den einai lathos...p.x. i Iberia prin tin idiwtikopoiisi tis eixe ton kalitero CEO gia na tin ftiaksei kai meta to Ispaniko kratos tin poulise ws mia eksigiasmeni pleon kai kerdofora epixeirisi.
To zitima omws einai oti i OA einai se kaka xalia kai oti kai an prospathisei na kanei i kivernisi den prokeite na allaksei tpt. Kai oi ependites tou ekswterikou den nomizw na theloun na ksodepsoun dekara gia mia etaireia pou mastizete aptin grafeiokratia, ta sindikata kai genikws ton paralogismo. H swsth seira gia na vreis agorasti einai EKSIGIANSI-KERDOFORIA-IDIWTIKOPOIISH...alliws to mono pou mporeis na vreis einai kanenan efoplisti i Ellina tou ekswterikou pou tha agorasei tin OA mono gia to prestige kai tin perifania.

Gia na eksigianthei omws i etaireia prepei na dioristhei enas ikanos CEO pou na triksei ta dontia stous ipallilous kai na min kindineuei na antikatastathei aptin kivernisi. Kai oxi kathigites marksistikwn oikonomikwn (vlepe ton CEO to 1994) i allous asxetous me ta aeroporika.

Parepimptontos ta xreh megalwnoun, i piesi tis Eurwpaikis Enwsis ginete pio entoni kai genikws steneuoun ta perithwria....

Autos einai o logos pou thewrw oti i OA tha kleisei sintoma. Kai prepei na kleisei gia na apeleutherwthei i agora apo enan arrwsto aerometaforea, wste na erthoun amesa ksenes (i na anoiksoun alles ellinikes) etaireies gia na kalipsoun to keno. Kai tha erthoun...
 
A380":2087tso9 said:
Gia na eksigianthei omws i etaireia prepei na dioristhei enas ikanos CEO pou na triksei ta dontia stous ipallilous kai na min kindineuei na antikatastathei aptin kivernisi. Kai oxi kathigites marksistikwn oikonomikwn (vlepe ton CEO to 1994) i allous asxetous me ta aeroporika.
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

Basika o Woehrl pou agorase tnv Deutsche BA gia 1 (ENA) EUR, pouxa poulouse .. Pws ta katafere? Gia 12 mnves to proswpiko pnre 15% meiwnevo mis8o, ta afevtika tns dba dev pnrave dekara, dioti bazve ta xpnmata stnv etaireia. Noikiase vea pio apla kai pio mikpa (apa pio ftnva) grafeia sto MUC kai o idios boleutike avamesa stous suvergates tou, mnv askwvtas to "dikaiwma" tou gia 3exwristo grafeio me xlidn kouloupou. Dev eivai loipov upoxrewtiko va exeis idea apo aeroporika gia va 3avastnseis mia etaireia kai va tnv kaveis 18 mnves meta pou tnv avelabes gia prwtn fora stnv istopia tns kerdofora - to zntnma eivai va EISAI manager kai oxi va to paizeis manager kai va EXEIS idea apo etaireies kai oxi NA TO PAIZEIS pws exeis idea apo etaireies! (se 2o proswpo mev avaferwmevos, alla oxi se eseva, file A380)


A380":2087tso9 said:
Autos einai o logos pou thewrw oti i OA tha kleisei sintoma. Kai prepei na kleisei gia na apeleutherwthei i agora apo enan arrwsto aerometaforea, wste na erthoun amesa ksenes (i na anoiksoun alles ellinikes) etaireies gia na kalipsoun to keno. Kai tha erthoun...
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

Basika eivai sa va les oti avakoivwvetai dnmosia oti n OA kleivei se 1 mnva kai se auto to mnva 8a exouve stn8ei oi etaireies pou 8aparouve tnv 8esn tns. Kati tetoio dev eivai efikto! 8elei xpovo gia va stn8ei mia etaireia swsta (ase tis etaireies tou podariou pou upnrxave kata kaipous sto ellnviko prosknvio) Prepei va bre8ei proswpiko, va bre8ouve skafn (kai dn afou aposafnvistouve oi avagkes tns etaireias), va perasouve elegxo, bafn, va ekpaideutei to proswpiko stov tupo kai de sumazeuetai!

Ama apxisoume va blepoume ellnvikes etaireies va bgaivouve stnv agora (8a elega se prwtn fasn 2), n va exouve tnv pro8esn, tote isws va prepei va arxisoume va avnsnxoume gia to mellov tns OA!!!! (PS: kai de lew gia GEB n oti alln podaroetaireia, milaw gia sobares katastaseis!!!!!)
 
makedonas":yjwaggbk said:
Protasn: EXEL?

As mnv 3exvame oti prokeitai gia mia etaireia sto stul TUI me polles 8ugatrikes, gurw stis 8, ama dev kavw la8os... Sigoura to "EXEL Olympic" xtupaei axnma, alla.... :oops:
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

H DBR den anhke ston TUI opos epishs kai h Excel kai sigoyra kaneis den tha hthele tis OA sta xeria toy.
Hdh o TUI exei dromologhsei na kanei apolyseis prosopikoy!
Epishs poia einai arage ayth h megalh Ollandikh etairia.
Mono h KLM einai megalh etairia sthn Ollandia me deyterh thn Transavia poy anhkei se aythn kata 80%.
 
Dev eipa oti avnke stov omilo TUI, alla oti eivai etaireia sto stul tns TUI n EXEL (agorase se diafores xwres etaireies kai tis ebale upo mia ev mepn koivn ovomasia stnv agora) Kai fusika dev 8eloume va tnv doume etsi, alla...
 
makedonas":2q0aqsk3 said:
Basika o Woehrl pou agorase tnv Deutsche BA gia 1 (ENA) EUR, pouxa poulouse .. Pws ta katafere? Gia 12 mnves to proswpiko pnre 15% meiwnevo mis8o, ta afevtika tns dba dev pnrave dekara, dioti bazve ta xpnmata stnv etaireia. Noikiase vea pio apla kai pio mikpa (apa pio ftnva) grafeia sto MUC kai o idios boleutike avamesa stous suvergates tou, mnv askwvtas to "dikaiwma" tou gia 3exwristo grafeio me xlidn kouloupou.
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

Den nomizw oti mporeis na sigrineis tin DBA me tin OA...einai san na sigrineis tin Germania...me tin Ellada! H DBA anike stin BA, enw i OA sto kratos. Sin tou oti o Wohrl agorase tin DBA aptin BA kai meta afise tin dioikisi se 2 ikanotatous manager. Den einai o kateksoxin ipeuthinos gia tin allagi stin DBA epomenos...sin tou oti akoma den kseroume an eixe kerdi to 2004. Den kserw an to oikonomiko etos stin germania ligei ton Marti alla opws kai naxei den exoun anakoinwthei kerdi akoma.

Pantws einai 2 anomoia pragmata kai an sinexisoume na milame gia tin DBA tha vgoume ektos thematos.

makedonas":2q0aqsk3 said:
Basika eivai sa va les oti avakoivwvetai dnmosia oti n OA kleivei se 1 mnva kai se auto to mnva 8a exouve stn8ei oi etaireies pou 8aparouve tnv 8esn tns. Kati tetoio dev eivai efikto! 8elei xpovo gia va stn8ei mia etaireia swsta (ase tis etaireies tou podariou pou upnrxave kata kaipous sto ellnviko prosknvio) Prepei va bre8ei proswpiko, va bre8ouve skafn (kai dn afou aposafnvistouve oi avagkes tns etaireias), va perasouve elegxo, bafn, va ekpaideutei to proswpiko stov tupo kai de sumazeuetai!
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...

Den simfwnw...einai poli eukolo na stithei mia etaireia an isxioun 2 proipotheseis: 1) na iparxei kefalaio, kai 2) i YPA na dwsei to AOC (Air Operators Certificate) se eulogo xrono kai xwris grafeiokratia.

H etaireia mporei poli eukola na kanei wet lease apo opoiadipote leasing company se ola (a/c, crew, engineering, crew salaries, ktl.). To mono xronovoro einai to AOC, alla kai pali auto eksartate aptin grafeiokratia. Pantws an kleisei i OA, pistepse me to kratos tha dwsei to AOC se poli ligotero xrono gia na min meinoun ola ta routes pou tha afisei i OA anekmetaleuta.

An den erthei kapoios tin epomeni tis dialisis tis OA, tote i Aegean tha trivei ta xeria tis. Exei eidi to AOC kai tha parei eggrisi gia ola ta kena pou tha afisei i OA.

Y.G. simfono mazi sou oti prepei na exeis tin gnwsh tou pws dioikeite mia etaireia (na eisai manager dld) kai oxi na to paizeis. Alla elpizo na ksereis tin diafora metaksi entrepreneur (Chatziioannou, Wohrl, ktl.) kai manager (Eddington, Webster, de Irala, ktl.). O prwtos vazei ta lefta kai asxoleite gia ligo mexri na anathesei tin dioikisi ston deutero pou einai ikanoteros sto day-to-day management.
 
Apo arthro tou simerinou Kosmou tou ependiti:

oi upopsifioi agorastes einai 17. apo autous pio sobaroi theorounte 7. Stous endiaferomenous sumperilambanonte oi:
-Olympic investors (k. Alexakis + K. Lampros Kanelopoulos, proin Dieuthinon Sumboulos ths OA)
-Crysler Aviation (K. Rapths + megalh etairia ths Apo Anatolis)
-IAS
-Ellinolibanezos epixeirimatias pou sunergazotan me ton omilo Latsi
-Pelatis ths Morgan Stanley pou isos krobei th summetoxh megalou onomatos

H etairia Lazzards- sumboulos ths kivernisis- apotima tis OA sta 100 million Euro.
Apo edo kai pera h diadikasia exei os ekseis: oi upopsifioi exoun labei to Information memorandum kai prepei mexri tis 9 Febrouariou na katathesoun sto Londino mi sedmeutikes prosfores. Katopin tha katartisei short list kai argotera tha prepei na katatethoun oi desmeutikes prosfores. H olh diadikasia tha exei teleiosei entos tou Apriliou.

distixos o KtE den exei link gia na sas doso alla einai apo th sellida 21 stis 22/01/05
 
Τα ίδια και τα ίδια ......... Μακάρι να γίνει κάτι!! Οτιδήποτε!!

Γιατί δεν την πουλάνε σε 17 κομμάτια ? ¨Ενα στον καθένα ...
 
πιθανό κλείσιμο ΟΑ

Από σημερινό άρθρο της Ελευθεροτυπίας για την οικονομική πολιτική της κυβέρνησης:

* Στις 11 Φεβρουαρίου ανοίγουν οι προσφορές για την «Ολυμπιακή», ένα θέμα-βαρόμετρο για την κυβέρνηση:
Αν επιτευχθεί η πώλησή της, θα είναι μια σημαντική επιτυχία, και μάλιστα σε έναν τομέα όπου έχει αποτύχει πολλάκις το ΠΑΣΟΚ. Αν ο διαγωνισμός κηρυχθεί άγονος, τότε η κυβέρνηση είναι αποφασισμένη να προχωρήσει στο κλείσιμο της εταιρείας, αφού η συνέχιση της χρηματοδότησής της είναι αντίθετη με την κοινοτική νομοθεσία περί ανταγωνισμού.
 
Status
Κλειστό για νεότερες απαντήσεις.
Top