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Egw anoi3a auto to thread ton Ianouario toy 2005 kai apo oti fainetai kala krataei. Epanalambanw auta pou egrapsa tote kai pou kata thn apopsh mou ysxeioun akomh kai einai pio epikaira oso pote meta thn syntrhbh tou aeroskafous ths Helios.

Auto pou prepei na symbei stis Ellhnikes aerometafores einai mia ethnikh stratigikh pou 0a perilambanei kai thn Ellada kai thn Kypro. Stoxos auths ths symaxias prepei na einai h asfaleia kai antagwnistikothta tou Ellhnikou aeroporikou proiontos apenanth sth synexws epektash ths LH, KL/AF, BA ston xwro ths anatolhkhs Messogiou.

Nomizw oti yparxoun tropoi na 3eperastoun oi antidraseis ths EE otan yparxei synenwhsh kai otan den kollame se syngkekrimenes etairies, onomata kai istories.

Giati na mhn idry0ei mia Ellhnikh "Emirates" ean 0elate pou na paragei nees ellhnofwnes 0eseis ergasias stis aerometafores, na exei edra to El Vel kai na paragei swsto antagwnismo, asfaleia kai fhmh.

Oi problhmatikes shmerines Ellhnikes etairies to mono pou katafernoun einai na katastrefei h mia thn allh me enan antagwnismo meta3y tous sta idia dromologia kai proorismous.

Gia paradeigma h Aegean sympratei me thn LH pros pi0anh zhmia sthn OA kai alles etairies pou exoun germanokentriko diktyo.

Auta den 0a eprepe na symbainoun.

Epishs 0a eprepe na yparxei mia sysfh3h twn texnikwn sxesewn meta3y twn etairiwn Ellhnikwn symferwntwn kati pou oi megales aeroporikes etairies ths Eurwphs eixan kanei apo thn dekaetia tou '70 otan hxan dimiourghsei to Atlas Group--ena texniko sxhma pou htan ypeu8yno akomh kai gia thn anapty3h twn programmatwn Airbus.

Einai poly eukolo na syngrwti0ei ena tetoio sxedio kai 0a htan dyskolo gia thn EE na to kathgorhsei gia a8emito antagwnismo.

Pws engkri0hke apo tis arxes antagwnismou h synxwneush AF/KL?

Pi8ana onomata yparxoun polla. Mporoun na xrhshmopoih0oun ta palia h na broume katalyla kainourgia.

Gia paradeigma h Swiss alla3e onoma xwris ousiastika na diaferei apo to prohgoumeno anagnwrismeno proion. Apla ebgale to "air" kai pros8ese to International Air Lines, LTD.

Emeis metatrepsame thn OA apo "Aeroporia" se "Aerogrammes" kai h EE mas leei oti ousiastika milame gia thn idia etairia?

Me poion sympratei h EE? Me emas h me tous antagwnistes mas?

OA+A3+CY+Helios+Eurocypria, etc. =Mia megalh a3iopisth Ellhnikh Aeroporikh Etairia.

Se authn thn prospa8eia omws prepei na sympra3ei kai h 3enh dioikhsh tou El.Vel. me meiwsh forwn, kai telwn sta8meushs.

Lefteris.
 
OA+A3+CY+Helios+Eurocypria, etc. =Mia megalh a3iopisth Ellhnikh Aeroporikh Etairia...........

MIA polli endiaferousa apopsi protasi..........den xero an praktika ayto to sxima mbori na perpatisi......alla to diavazo me polli endiaferon.....Veveos pia simferonta apilountai.....
 
edo pleon milame gia eleutheri agora. einai pleon 2005 kai oxi dekaetia tou 70.an oi oa den mporoun na zhsoun ego den eimai diatethimenos na tis ziso...opos kanoun oi italoi me thn alitalia kai opos ekanan kata periodous oi aggloi sthn ba.....den ksero pos alla prepei na teleiosoume me tis kratikodiaites etairies oi opoies <<taizoun>> uperarithmo kosmo ston vomo tou ethnikou enaeriou forea.i swiss osa onomata kai na allaze pali tha pouliotane sthn lh....simera i agora zita etairies me ksekatharous stoxous kai me safi politiki.an kapoios mporei na ta diasfalisei ayta sthn oa kai mazi me ayto na dextei kai ta xreh ths tote na poulithei. an einai aplos na kerdisei kapoios kapileuomenos to onoma tis oa kai na plirosoume emeis ta xreh.....tote.....as zhsei stis mnhmes mas h oa. i europi prepei epitelous na katanoisei posprepei na iothetisei to vretaniko -amerikaniko montelo aerometaforon. me elythera aerodromia kai eleytheres etairies. kai na paiksei timia.oxi swissair kai swiss airlines.......einai san na leei o xontros pos den to noia zei an falirisei i easyjet giati meta tha idrisei thn easierjet xoris na exei xasei tipota
 
Den 3erw nofrills, isws na mh fainwtanai sto mhnyma mou alla 3erw oti eimai sto 2005 kai oti oi eleu8eroi ouranoi kai to Anglo-Amerikaniko-Asiatiko modelo einai pia kanonas. Ekeino pou mallon me stenoxwrei zhsei, den zhsei h OA h oi OA oi opws 0eleis as tis lene, einai oti sthn eleu0erh agora se e3eli3h den fainetai na yparxei kammia Ellhnikh etairia me stratigikh hub pou na einai ikanh na a3iopihsei auta prosferei to El.Vel. kai h Ellhnikh agora genika.

Auto shmainei oti h 0a er0oun megales etairies kai 0a kanoun to El. Vel. dikotous periferiako hub h 0a doume megalo ari0mo mikrwn etairiwn typou Helios.

Oso gia thn eleu0erh agora, oute auth einai aparetita eggihths kerdoforias.

Gia paradeigma exw thn topikh edw etairia sto IAD (Washington Dulles) thn Independence Air pou exei kainourgia aeroskafh (A319), kalo service, kai panw apo ola fthnous proorismous kai ena kalo hub. Auta omws ta pleonekthmata den e3asfalhsan kerdoforia kai h Independence Air einai etoimh na kyrh3ei ptoxeush. H de metoxh ths exei molis .45 cents.
 
THA THELATE?

Thelo na statho sta osa diavasa sti 2 piopano dimosieysis......stis lexis MODELO-ELEYTHERI AGORA.......kai na sas metafero to tromo pou niotho etsi opos teinoun na ginoun aytes oi lexis sti zoh mas......giati mallon ola prepei na pernane mesa apo sigkekrimena Modela Anaptixis alla kai tin eleu8eri agora........mallon na stamatisoume na petame...afou de tha simferoun kapies diadromes H tha exoume plimeli sintirisi Aeroskafon kai aplos na ta fotografizoume oso tha petane aeroplana......mias kai kai to MODELO tis ELEYTERIS AGORAS fernei kai....to monopolio.......kai kapia ''mikroatiximata'' tou typou Helios ktl...........THA THELATE mia pio orthologiki diaxirisi YIA paradigma tis OLYMPIC xoris na einai pedio '''diorismon'' ktl kai na kratage ton KOINONIKO XARAKTIRA tis kai as plironame ena mikro ellima?
 
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Thelo na statho sta osa diavasa sti 2 piopano dimosieysis......stis lexis MODELO-ELEYTHERI AGORA.......kai na sas metafero to tromo pou niotho etsi opos teinoun na ginoun aytes oi lexis sti zoh mas......giati mallon ola prepei na pernane mesa apo sigkekrimena Modela Anaptixis alla kai tin eleu8eri agora........mallon na stamatisoume na petame...afou de tha simferoun kapies diadromes H tha exoume plimeli sintirisi Aeroskafon kai aplos na ta fotografizoume oso tha petane aeroplana......mias kai kai to MODELO tis ELEYTERIS AGORAS fernei kai....to monopolio.......kai kapia ''mikroatiximata'' tou typou Helios ktl...........THA THELATE mia pio orthologiki diaxirisi YIA paradigma tis OLYMPIC xoris na einai pedio '''diorismon'' ktl kai na kratage ton KOINONIKO XARAKTIRA tis kai as plironame ena mikro ellima?
κλικ για όλη την παράθεση...


oi fovoi sou mporoun na lithoun an mpeis stis selides etairio opos i easy,i ryan,i flybe pou ekteloun routes pou oi kratikes-aksiopistes(oso aksiopisti mporei na einai mia xreomeni etairia) den eixan kanei skeftei pos iparxoun. opou iparxoun anthropoi iparxei kai anagi metakinisis. sigoura den simferei pantou na xrisimopoiountai heavies....isos oute kan 737...alla gia ayto iparxei kai i embraer kai i bombardier.

i eleutheri agora dokimastike sthn vretania.polles etairies ekleisan .to apo dexomai.alles apo lathi kai alles apo atixia.alla polles epiviosan kai exoun pleon kalles times kai megalous kai aksiopistous stolous. epikindini ginete i prospatheia ton mikronn idiotikon etairion otan aytes prospathoun na mpoun se mia agora sthn opoia iparxei idi mia megali kratiki etiaria i opoia kapileuete ta panta.apo doaxeirisi aerodromion mexri kratikous proipologismous.tote isos i mikri etairia anagazete na mhn paiksei timia.kai fisika to katadikazo ayto. aplos skeftite pos i aeroporiki anthisi tis vretanias egine otan i ba idiotikopoihthike. pleon sthn vretania den iparxei mono i virgin kai i bmi apo tis idiotikes alla 10 toulaxiston akoma. kai ekteloun routes pou den simferoun se mia megali etairia.


oso gia to gegonos pos den iparxei elliniki kinisi sta aeroporika dromena kai mena me lipei to gegonos.poso mallon otan petao skg-ath mia fora to mina kai anagazomai na plirono 120 pane ela.

sigoura i sintirisi ton aeroskafon einai poli simantiko pragma kai den prepi na pernaei sta psila grammata.alla kai i ekseliksi ton aeroskafon einai poli simantiko pragma episis. an kaneis katsei sto ftero(agapimeni mou thesi) se ena 737 300 tis aegean kai se ena 737 700 tis easy tha katalavei tin ekseliksi tis aeroporias......den exoun kamia sxesi.....kai den xreiazete polles aeronaupigikes kai reustomixanikes gnoseis
 
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AGAPITE no frills

Stivari kai me ikana epixirimata h skepsi sou....thelo omos na xekiniso ti dikia mou apo ti logiki oti orismena pragmata se mia xora tha prepi na exoun koinoniko xaraktira,pragma pou distixos oso anafora tin OLYMPIC den sinevei den simveni...itan pedio politikon dokimon,astoxon xeirismon,mikro h megalosimferonton,nomizo oti oloi katalavenoume yiati ena A300 petouse me 4 epivates skg-ath.......kai alla polla pou tha katamartirisoun anthropoi pou doulevoun ekei kai sevonte to katsavidi pou kratane h to pidalio h to disko me tous kafedes ktl....alla kai pu anextikan na tsakononte 3 ipalliloi yia to pios tha bgei exo na dosei plirofories(oloi tous variotousan)......kai to korifeo.....aerosinodos 1.60 epi 1.60...den einai kako kapia na einai paxouli....alla vre aderfe den ti vazis frontline ston aera....eleos......Tharis oti oloi ekei sto Elliniko litourgousan me mia sintexniaki logiki.....kai allo pou den ithele h proistameni arxi tis OLYMPIC.......kai edo entopizo mia apo tis rizes tou kakou.....To diethnes topio stis aerometafores allaxe o kosmos allaxe,ta aeroplana allaxan alla ekei sti Leoforo Siggrou den eixan tetia diathesi,kai to koinoniko agatho tis aerometaforas, tou ethnikou aerometaforea tha akolouthisi ena modelo anaptixis makria apo ta paradigmata pou anefere o no frills......ftino eisitirio..oxi tsamba....asfali aerometafora....kai dromologia akoma kai sto kastelorizo ti lero ti kaso alla kai sto sydney(ali8ia yiati tin eklisan ti grammi?oi dikoi mas kato akoma vrizoun kai einai polloi)..............

EYXARISTO
 
Πολύ καλά τα λές φίλε ΜΑΧΙΜ, δεν αναφέρεσαι όμως και στις προσλήψεις κάποιων που είχαν τα προσόντα αλλά δεν είχαν "δόντι;" Τι σκέπτονται τόσα χρόνια όλοι αυτοί και κατά πόσο λυπούνται τώρα; Δυστυχώς έχουν οι καιροί γυρίσματα..
 
Πολλές κονταρομαχίες βλέπω εδώ, και δεν καταλήγουμε σε κανένα συμπέρασμα. Ας μείνουμε στα facts, προσωπικοί διαξιφισμοί και απόψεις είναι για ΠM.. ;)

ΥΓ: Πρέπει να μιλάμε για το μέλλον, και όχι για το παρελθόν.. ;) Το τι έγινε, έγινε, δεν αλλάζει! Στο μέλλον θα πρέπει να αποφευχθούν τα λάθη του παρελθόντος. Και δεν ωφελεί σε τίποτα να αναπολούμε "παλιές, καλές, χαμένες δόξες και στιγμές", διότι έχει αλλάξει η εποχή και η Ολυμπιακή (η διοίκηση της) θα πρέπει να καταλάβει ότι ναι μεν δεν χρειάζεται να είσαι global player για να επιζήσεις, επιβάλλεται όμως να έχεις ένα σχέδιο και να το ακολουθείς κατά γράμμα! Το ίδιο ισχύει και για την εκάστοτε κυβέρνηση που επιχειρεί να ξεφορτωθεί το τσιράκι της ΟΑ.


Και τώρα.. Back to topic pls.. ;)
 
re paidia nomizw oti exoume ksefigei apo to thema as karatisoume loipon to topik mono gia ta peri idiotikopihshs kai gia ta ypolipa na anaxthei sxetiko topic :wink:
 
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